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She Wept - The Rev. Doug Norris (Text & Audio)

Listen to and read the June 10, 2007 sermon by the Rev. Doug Norris.

Doug Norris was the Associate Pastor at First Palo Alto from July 1, 1969 to June 30, 1974, and he returned to serve as our Senior pastor from July 1, 1983 until June 30, 1993.

In honor of his long, dedicated service to the First United Methodist Church of Palo Alto, the Church Conference voted in January 2006 to name him Senior Pastor Emeritus.

The reading was Luke 7:36-8:3.


LUKE 7:36-8:3

June 10, 2007
Douglas Norris

I’m intrigued by the woman who washed Jesus’ feet with her tears, dried them with her hair, repeatedly kissed his feet and then anointed them. Outlandish? Overly demonstrative?

Now, Simon, the host, I can understand. He was a, cautious, conservative, reserved, proud, respected Pharisee who probably felt he was doing Jesus a favor by entertaining him in his home. But, he certainly failed as a host. It was the custom to wash the feet of guests, or have a servant wash them. The streets weren’t paved. Guests walked, sometimes long distances. Can you imagine how relaxing it would feel to have your sore, hot, dusty feet washed and soothed with ointment. But, there was no foot washing in Simon’s house. And, he was shocked when Jesus allowed this sinful woman to touch him. “Surely” Simon thought, “he knows who and what kind of woman this is!”

Jesus put Simon in his place in short order, pointing out his shortcomings as a host, and praising the woman for her outlandish kindness. Simon is reprimanded, the woman is praised. Jesus praised her for her lavish demonstration of love, and forgave her sins, which were many. Notice she didn’t ask to be forgiven. Her forgiveness was a gift. Jesus said to Simon, “Her sins, which were many, have been forgiven; hence she has shown great love. But the one to whom little is forgiven, loves little.” Ouch! Take that, Simon. You who think you are so important do not realize how pitiful you are. You who think you are self-sufficient do not realize how spiritually impoverished you are.

I’m intrigued by the woman. We first see her standing behind Jesus at his feet, weeping. Remember, now, they weren’t sitting on chairs. When he painted The Last Supper, DaVinci evidently didn’t know how they dined in Jesus’ day. Evidently DaVinci thought Jesus said, “Hey, guys, if you want to get in the picture, get on this side of the table!” No, they didn’t sit on chairs. Nor did they sit on the floor. They reclined at the table, leaning on one arm, with their feet outstretched.

The woman stood behind Jesus at his feet, weeping. (I also wonder how she got into Simon’s house. If she were a woman of the streets, how did she get in? Was she a regular visitor of Simon? But, let’s not go there.)

She wept. I wonder why. Why was she weeping? Did she feel badly because no one had washed and anointed Jesus’ feet? Was she embarrassed by the lack of hospitality? Did she see a need, and decide to fill it? Evidently, she was prepared. She had brought with her an alabaster jar of ointment.

I suspect there was more to it than that. I suspect her tears were the result of being in the actual presence of the Lord? She probably could not believe it! Here she is--a woman of the street, a woman shunned by other women, a woman who respectable people ostracized, a sinner. Here she is, standing behind Jesus. Overwhelmed, filled with awe, struck with the incredulity of the moment, she wept. Did she also weep out of remorse, sorry for her life, ashamed of how she had to live in order to survive? How unworthy she must have felt to be in the presence of Jesus.

This unnamed woman, her response and her actions serve as a model for Christian worship and service.

When we enter the presence of God, when we sense the mystery, grandeur, and holiness of God, our response is to weep. The woman teaches us to weep in the presence of God. I recall giving a Minnesota couple a tour of our church several years ago. I didn’t bring visitors into the sanctuary through the convenient side doors. I made them walk outside, through the patio, through the narthex and then into the sanctuary. The woman from Minneapolis wept. She was awestruck and whispered, “How magnificent!” Other visitors would say, “How nice. Where’s the coffee?” But, she wept. I’m afraid most of us have been in this room so often we take it for granted. And, on Sundays, we’re late, rushed, busy, our minds filled with myriads of thoughts, none of them on God, and we miss the sense of awe. The Minneapolis visitor entered the presence of God, and she wept. What if she had heard the organ and choirs!

I suggest to you that our response when we enter the sanctuary, or a time of prayer is to weep. Oh, I don’t mean literal tears necessarily; but my profound religious experiences have included tears, sometimes wet eyes, but sometimes intense weeping. Several weeks ago, I talked to a woman who is going through a very difficult time. She goes to church and weeps. She was embarrassed until her pastor told her, “If we aren’t free to cry in church, where can we weep?” Weeping is cleansing. Weeping is healing. Weeping is a blessing from God. Weeping, not necessarily literal tears, is an attitude of humility, vulnerability, and dependence on God.

Next Sunday when you come to church, and whenever you begin a time of prayer at home or wherever, begin with weeping. By that I mean, recall how blessed you are, how God has lavished heaps of blessings on you. Call to mind how you have not done what you should have done, how you have done what you shouldn’t have done, and how you have failed to do what you set out to do. Confess. Weep.

Yesterday, one of our church’s young women was married. Her family moved here when she was five years old. Marjorie Sweet grew up in this church. She loves this church and considers you part of her family. She recalls that when she was little, she would not go home until she had her hug from Doug. Yesterday, we wept, we wept tears of joy, basking in the beauty of God’s love. This morning we baptized Adam Noke and Jeremiah Fung, and we weep tears of joy and gratitude to God for the precious gift of life. Today we celebrate the golden wedding anniversary of Allen and Mary Lu Wood. Fifty years! And we weep tears of joy and thanksgiving to God for their example, their witness. In three weeks, we will celebrate the life of one of the grand ladies of our church, Gracia Smith, and we weep. Yes, church is where we weep tears of sorrow and grief; church is where we weep tears of joy; church is where we weep tears of remorse and contrition.

When Isaiah had a vision of the Lord’s grandeur, mystery and splendor, how the whole earth is full of God’s glory, his reaction was to contrast the holiness of God and the human condition. And he wept, (Isaiah 6.5), “Woe is me! I am lost, for I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips.”

When the news first came of the Virginia Tech massacre, I wept. Our nation wept. Americans caught a glimpse of what the Iraqis live with every day—senseless, brutal, demented killings of innocent people. Woe is us! We are lost. We are a people of unclean lips.

But, the woman did not stop with her tears. Nor did Isaiah. He was mystified, he couldn’t believe what he was experiencing, and again he must have wept when he whispered in disbelief, “Yet, yet my eyes have seen the King.” Yet, in spite of what the woman was, in spite of what she had done, she saw Jesus. Yet, in spite of the horrors of terrorism and wanton killing, in spite of war and its uninhibited violence, yet we can see God. We can experience the presence of God even in the midst of sin and evil.

She wept, but she didn’t stop there. Her tears moved her to action. She fulfilled a need. Jesus’ feet were dusty. She tenderly washed his feet with her tears, dried them with her hair, kissed them and rubbed them with ointment.

Our country has schools to educate; cities to provide protection, streets, water; engineers to improve technology; agriculture to provide food, etc. What is the role of the church? What does the church provide? The church’s role is to weep, to intercede with God on behalf of a suffering, troubled world, and to call the nation to weep. “Oh, God of creation, who gave us a planet of plenty, who made us to love and live in peace and harmony, what have we done! Woe is us.”

However, weeping does not mean hand wringing. Weeping means remorse, contrition, repentance, cleansing, and true weeping leads to action. Serve. Wash and anoint the Lord’s feet. Feed the hungry, clothe the naked, love and protect the children, fight for justice, make peace.

Our church wept when the Ramirez family was threatened. The parents were deported because they were illegal immigrants, but their children were being forced to stay here. Our church turned tears into action, raised awareness and money so the children could accompany their parents. The family remains intact.

The senior high youth group at Paradise Valley United Methodist Church, the church we attend in Arizona, wept over the plight of the homeless. They turned their tears into action. One Saturday a month they prepare sack lunches and then distribute them at a homeless shelter. They went further and developed a mission they call Open Table. So far they have helped a single man and a single woman with a young son get training, jobs and homes of their own. One of the youth, Victor Ferreira, said, “It’s great to work with the homeless. Seeing the joy and hope on their faces when we tell them that we are going to help them is amazing…Our work shows me that most homeless people want to and do work hard; they simply do not have the resources or knowledge. Open Table clears these obstacles and brings hope to the homeless.” Open Table is now spreading throughout United Methodist churches in the Phoenix area.

She wept. She met Jesus and she wept. She experienced the forgiving, loving presence of God, and she wept, turning her tears into action. Sisters and brothers, do you weep?

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Tell Them About Jesus - The Rev. Doug Norris (Text and Audio)

Norris506Preaches150126.jpgListen to and read the May 21st sermon by the Rev. Doug Norris.

Doug Norris was the Associate Pastor at First Palo Alto from July 1, 1969 to June 30, 1974, and he returned to serve as our Senior pastor from July 1, 1983 until June 30, 1993.

In honor of his long, dedicated service to the First United Methodist Church of Palo Alto, the Church Conference voted in January 2006 to name him Senior Pastor Emeritus.

The reading was Colossians 1:13-20.


May 21, 2006
First United Methodist Church of Palo Alto
Colossians 1.13-20

I am truly honored and delighted to be named Senior Pastor Emeritus! I was pastor here for a total of fifteen years—five as Associate and ten as Senior. Thank you, Archer and the congregation! I am very grateful. I am also grateful that our entire family is present here this morning. Our three sons were nurtured in the faith by the saints of this congregation, and they are continuing the tradition. Jack, Jennifer, Alison, Adrienne and Erin are active leaders in the Campbell UMC. Tim, Barbara, Julia, Melanie and Amanda are active leaders in the Paradise Valley UMC in Arizona. Craig and Laura are active leaders in this church, and the nurturing continues as their children, Sara and Tyler, are being nurtured in the faith by you.

When I was 18 years old, and a sophomore at Hamline University in St. Paul, Minnesota, the District Superintendent appointed me to pastor two Methodist churches. Those of you who know me understand that I am somewhat brash, and tend to rush in where even angels fear to tread, so I accepted with alacrity, joyful at a chance to serve the Lord. I attended classes during the week, and spent the weekends with the congregations. However, I soon had a rude awakening when I began to realize what being a pastor at the age of 18 meant. My predecessor had a rough time. In fact, in one of the churches only three people were there on his last Sunday!

One Saturday afternoon I visited with a retired mailman who was now pastor of a neighboring Community Church. He was Dutch, and spoke with a heavy accent. I asked his advice. I asked how I, an 18-year-old, could gain the respect of the congregations. How could I handle the divisive situation? What could I, a kid that is still wet behind the ears, preach to people three and four times my age? How could I presume to know enough? I can still see him as he leaned back in his chair, looked over to me, and said, "Tell them about Jesus. Tell them the old, old story of Jesus and his love. They won't dare fight with Jesus."

I took his advice. I preached Jesus, and the congregations responded beautifully—over 50 in worship attendance at both churches, and over 25 in each youth group. Some went into the ministry. Through the years, my mantra, my theme, has been, ““Tell them about Jesus….the old, old story of Jesus and his love.”

When I retired seven years ago, my family surprised me with a website. It includes most of the sermons I’ve preached since I started using a computer! What a gift! Check it out: dougnorris.com And, the theme my family chose for the website? Of course, TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS.

That message is still relevant today. In fact, the world, our nation, and popular Christianity in particular, need desperately to be told about Jesus.

There are voices today, loud voices, telling us that their version of Christianity is the correct version, and the rest of us, along with Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus are all going to hell. When Jesus comes again, they say, millions of people will be left behind to be slaughtered, and billions will fry in hell. What do we say to these arrogant, self-righteous bigots?

TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS! Jesus, who said, John 10.16, “I have other sheep that do not belong to this fold.” Jesus, who had compassion even for the pagan Roman Gentiles, and healed the centurion’s servant. Jesus, who is bigger than any one perspective. No one can put God in a box, nail down the cover, claim ownership and announce, “Jesus belongs to me”! Recently, a young man wrote to tell me that his mother, who had married again, had turned Buddhist. He went to his campus minister who told him in no uncertain terms that his mother was now going to hell. I wrote back and said, “Tell that minister to go to hell, and you join a church that preaches the love of Jesus.”

There are voices today, loud voices, telling us to take the Bible literally, that every word is true. Of course, they only take the passages they like literally, and ignore the others, but that’s beside the point. What do we say to the literalists who arrogantly accuse the rest of us being unbiblical?

TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS! Jesus did not take the scriptures literally. Not only did Jesus not take the Bible literally, he changed it! He upgraded it to fit his message of love. Several times, he said, “You have heard it said of old, but I say.” For example, Matthew 5.38, “You have heard it said ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, Do not resist an evildoer.” Jesus then proceeded to give some creative alternatives to retaliation.

There are voices today, loud voices, who believe in an eye for an eye urging America to return evil for evil, to hate and annihilate our enemies. What do we say to them?

TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS! Again, Jesus did not take the scriptures literally, and even had the nerve to change the Law of Moses. Matthew 5.43, “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies.”

There are voices today, loud voices, who want to make the United States a Christian nation. They are ardently, forcefully, and politically pushing mandatory school prayer and demanding that their brand of right wing, fundamentalist Christianity be named the state religion of the United States of America. What do we say to them?

TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS! Jesus, who said, Matthew 22.21, “Give to the emperor the things that are the emperor’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” Separate! Jesus died on the cross at the hands of religious leaders who forced the Roman Emperor to do their will. Jesus died at the hands of state religion.

There are voices today, loud voices, who preach that not everyone is created equal, that women are subservient to men, and that gays and lesbians should not have rights that the rest of us have. After 9/11, Jerry Falwell, founder of the so-called Moral Majority, said, “I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle…I point the finger in their face and say, ‘You helped this happen.’” What do we say to Falwell and his ilk?

TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS. Jesus, whose embrace included all the sinners of his day. His entourage included poor folks, tax collectors, women, children, prostitutes, even men and rich people. Jesus said that how we treat the least of the lowly, the rejected and persecuted, the hungry, the thirsty, the imprisoned, the stranger, is how we treat Jesus.

And, what about the disciple Jesus loved? Certainly, he loved all his disciples, but only one is recorded, and recorded five times, as “the disciple whom Jesus loved.” The later translations have tried to sterilize the language, but the King James Version is closest to the original Greek. John 13.25, During the last supper, the disciple Jesus loved, was “lying on Jesus’ breast.” What is all that about? I don’t know. Let’s ask Falwell and homophobic fundamentalists who take the Bible literally to explain it!

The point is that Jesus’ embrace includes everyone. There are voices today, loud voices, crying for help. They are struggling with alcohol, drugs, marital problems, divorce. There are folks who are lost, lonely, depressed, looking for someone to save them, looking for a savior. Tell them about Jesus and his love. There are arrogant, prejudiced bigots searching for security by putting down all those who disagree with them.

Yes, tell them about Jesus. On Easter Sunday, a group left Phoenix on the CrossWalk to America. The group is getting larger as other Christians join them. On Labor Day, in Washington D.C., they will proclaim the Phoenix Affirmations, twelve Affirmations telling the country about the real Jesus, giving an alternative to popular fundamentalism.

Yes, tell them about Jesus. But, sisters and brothers, “them” includes us. We, also, need to know Jesus. We all like sheep have gone astray. We all are in need of a savior. We all stand in judgment and need God’s grace. We are no better, and no worse, than anyone else.

Furthermore, Jesus cannot be put into a box. We dare not attempt to contain the love of God, and keep it for ourselves. God so loved the world, and the world includes everyone. There is no one outside the love of God, no one, including you.

Mere words cannot adequately express or convey the love of God. Frederick Lehman has put music to the words.

The love of God is greater far than tongue or pen can ever tell,
It goes beyond the highest star, and reaches to the lowest hell;
The guilty pair, bowed down with care, God gave His Son to win
His erring child, he reconciled and pardoned from his sin.

O love of God, how rich and pure! How measureless and strong!
It shall forevermore endure the saints’ and angels’ song.

Could we with ink the ocean fill,
          And all the sky of parchment made
Were every stalk on earth a quill, and everyone a scribe by trade
To write the love of God above would drain the ocean dry;
Nor could the scroll contain the whole,
tho stretched from sky to sky.

May the love of God fill your heart—to overflowing, so that it flows through you to touch those on both sides of you. No restriction, no boundary, no rules, no man-made theology, no religious system; nothing can separate you from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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How Mighty Is Almighty - The Rev. Doug Norris (text and audio)

DougNorris905Preaches150117.jpgListen to the September 18th sermon preached by the Rev. Doug Norris.

Doug Norris was the Senior Pastor of First Palo Alto from 1983 to 1993

The reading was Romans 8: 28-30.


Douglas Norris
First United Methodist Church of Palo Alto
September 18, 2005
Romans 8.28-30

The first sentence of the Apostles’ Creed affirms, I believe in God, the Father Almighty. The question is: How Mighty is Almighty? Christians have debated this question for centuries, and can still be divided into two camps. Both positions were stated on CNN's Larry King Live, by none other than Billy Graham and Bill Cosby!

Larry King asked Billy Graham how he would comfort a family whose little girl had been killed. Billy Graham said, "I would tell them it was God's will." A few weeks later, Larry King asked Bill Cosby if he believed the murder of his son, Ennis Cosby, was God's will. Bill Cosby replied, "No, it wasn't God's will. The devil walked with Ennis' murderer."

The difference between the two is: Billy Graham is a Calvinist. Bill Cosby is an Arminian (spelled with i not e). Calvinism was a theological movement in the 17th century, based on John Calvin's teachings that emphasize the sovereignty of God. Because God is almighty, God is in control and has predestined everything that has happened and will happen. Jakob Arminius was a Dutch theologian in the 17th century who disagreed with Calvinism. Because God has given humans free will, what happens is not predestined, but caused by our actions.

Historically, Presbyterians and Baptists were Calvinists, and Methodists were Arminians. Did you hear about the Presbyterian who fell down the stairs, picked himself up, brushed himself off, and said, "Thank God, that's over." However, many modern Presbyterians have moved away from Calvinism. After a discussion in the Merced Ministerial Association several years ago, the Presbyterian pastor told me, “You’re more of a Calvinist than I am.” Denominations today do not fall easily into one position or the other.

How mighty is almighty? Did God plan everything that has happened? Is God in complete control? Is everything that happens God's will? Was the Holocaust, where 6 million human beings were slaughtered by the Nazis, God's will? Was 9/11 God’s will? Was Hurricane Katrina God’s will?

To state the dilemma theologically-- and these questions have been debated for centuries-- if God is in control, then God is responsible for evil; therefore God is not good. On the other hand, if God is not responsible for evil, then God is good but not almighty. There is the dilemma-- how mighty is almighty?

I find it helpful to make the distinction between “in charge” and “in control.” God is in charge, but not in control. As Director of Family Camp, I’m in charge of the camp; but I’m certainly not in control! (Certainly not of the teenagers)! When I was senior pastor here, I was in charge of this congregation, but I certainly wasn’t in control. I suspect Archer is also not in control! A principal is in charge of a school, but he/she cannot control what goes on in the school. Queen Elizabeth reigns but she can’t control her subjects. Our God reigns, but does not control. God is in charge of the planet, but does not control humanity.

Why? Three reasons:

1) God is contending with chaos. According to the first chapter of Genesis, God created the world out of chaos, Genesis 1:1-2, “In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was a formless void.” The view of creation ex nihilio where God creates out of nothing is not the Genesis view. In the Genesis view, God created order out of chaos, translated “formless void” in the New Revised Standard Version. The Hebrew word is tohu wabohu (doesn’t that have a ring to it)! Or, as Archer translated it one Sunday, “Oi Vey”!

Bernhard Anderson, in his book Contours of Old Testament Theology, writes, p. 88,

“The Genesis portrayal is compatible with a new revolution in science (the Bible is up-to-date!) in which the Newtonian view of a static, ordered cosmos is superseded by that of a complex, dynamic universe in which order and chaos belong together.”

What God is doing is bringing order out of chaos, order out of tohu wabohu. God’s work is not over. Chaos still persists. We are surrounded by chaos. Ask a gardener what happens when you ignore the garden for a few weeks. The weeds take over! Chaos reigns. Cancer, where cells are out of control, and order needs to be restored, is an example of chaos. Cancer is not God’s will.

2) Human beings have free will. We can choose right or wrong, love or hate, good or evil. We can choose to ignore God and to oppose God. When we choose to oppose God, are we not responsible for the consequences of our actions? How can we say it is God’s fault? When we choose to tamper with nature by increasing global warming, which then intensifies hurricanes, and then further increase damages by not preparing, is it fair to blame God for the devastation of Hurricane Katrina?

3) There is evil. Call it what you will-- the devil or evil or a force-- evil is constantly attacking, constantly trying to undo what is good, thwarting the will of God. As Bill Cosby said, “The devil walked with the murderer.” Following his baptism, Jesus went into the wilderness for forty days where he was tempted by the devil. Even Jesus was confronted by the devil, even Jesus throughout his ministry had to contend with the forces of evil. Nor can we expect to be immune.
God is in charge, but not in control because of chaos, free will, and evil.

Where is God? Outside, looking in, pulling strings like a puppeteer with a puppet? Or, is God inside, involved in working things out? The theological words are transcendence and immanence, outside and inside. Of course, God is in both locations, but which one you emphasize says a great deal about your theology. Calvinists emphasize the transcendence of God, the sovereignty of God, where God is sitting on a throne, above it all, decreeing, ordering, dictating. Arminians emphasize the immanence of God where God is within, inside situations, inside illness, working, healing, influencing, transforming.

What is God doing? God is bringing order out of chaos and fighting the forces of evil. Sometimes chaos and evil seem out of control in the world today, but God never gives up. Victory is promised. The Scripture Lesson this morning, Romans 8.28-30, uses the word “predestine.” Predestine does not mean that everything that happens has been predestined. Predestine means that the destination has been predestined. The destination is redemption, the Kingdom of God. It’s as if we are on a voyage. The ship is headed for its destination—God is in charge-- but God is not in control of what happens on the ship, where chaos, free will and evil run rampant. The ship flounders, detours, tossed to and fro, sometimes even reverses direction; but God is in charge and eventually the ship will reach God’s destination, the kingdom of God. Its destiny is predestined. Therefore, we hope in the future, because our destiny is predestined. Ultimately, God will prevail and will bind the devil in chains.

What is God doing now? God is working, influencing, bringing good out of bad. Romans 8:28, “All things work together for good.” I like the Revised Standard Version’s translation, "We know that in everything, God works for good." God is redeeming, saving, reconciling, loving. From cover to cover, the Bible has the same message. God is at work calling everyone to be reconciled, to be saved, to be powered to do God's work, to become disciples and work with God in the task of redemption. God is working constantly in all that happens to redeem situations, to transform people, and to get the ship back on its course; and God calls us to be disciples who co-operate with God. We are co-workers. We are the body of Christ on this earth.

By this time, you might be asking, "What difference does it make? You are giving us an intellectual exercise this morning by asking us to think about theology, but what difference does it make what I believe?" Oh, it makes a great deal of difference. If you believe that almighty means God is in control, then you are tempted to resign yourself to whatever happens. After all, if everything is predestined to happen, if God is in control, what difference can I make?

On the other hand, if you believe that God is in charge, but not in control; if you believe that God is in every situation working for good, and that God calls you to be involved in the task, then you are not resigned to whatever happens. You can make things happen.

You are hopeful, not acquiescent. You fight. You are faithful. You are resilient, resourceful. And you pray. You don't pray, "Oh, Lord, I know this terrible thing is your will so help me bear it." No, you pray, "Thy will be done." Jesus taught us in the Lord's Prayer to pray that God's will be done. Why? If God is in control, why did Jesus pray for God’s will to be done? Jesus prayed, “Thy will be done,” because often God's will is not done.

I believe in God, the Father Almighty. God is in charge, and God calls you and me to work so that God’s will be done.

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Doug Norris sings Precious Lord, Take My Hand (audio)


The Rev. Doug Norris was our guest preacher on September, 18, 2005.

He was our Senior Pastor from 1983-1993.

After his sermon, Doug sang Precious Lord, Take My Hand accompanied by Jeffrey Workman on piano.


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